From the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, the

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, the Armstrong and Getty Show.

In two days of talks, Blinken's main goal was to persuade Chinese officials to resume

contact between the two militaries, cut off since August last year.

It's less a hotline and more regular engagement, regular communication so that they understand

what we're doing and not doing.

But she did not agree.

US sanctions on China's defense minister were an excuse for why he refused his phone calls.

Yeah, so the condom to me is if you got a guy who wants to fight you, you don't want

to fight.

How do you dictate any terms whatsoever, aren't you in a constant state of retreat to try

to avoid the fight and he gets to set the pace of everything?

Unless you can say confidently, I will fight you and I will beat you badly.

Yeah, fighting me would be a really bad idea.

That's about the only hope you got.

So many stories, subplots involving China going on right now and who better to talk to than

one of our favorite journalists, Josh Rogan, global opinions columnist for the Washington

Post, also a political analyst with CNN.

Josh Rogan, how are you, sir?

Great.

Thanks for having me back.

Absolutely our pleasure.

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