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Hello and welcome to Women with Balls, where I, Katie Balls, speak to today's trailblazers.

My guest today was born in Peterborough, an Indian, Farley and English brother.

She's been an MP since 2015, but before Parliament spent over 25 years working to end domestic violence.

She served under Jeremy Corbyn as

shadow minister for arts and heritage and now serves in Kirstama's shadow cabinet as shadow

culture secretary. She is no stranger to a lively debate at the dispatch box and

despite a busy life as an MP still finds time for music playing cello in Parliament

as part of the string quartet,

the statutory instruments. My guest today is Thangham Devonner. Thangham, thank you very much

for coming on the podcast today. We always ask our guests, would you describe yours as a happy childhood?

With a control group of nothing. Yeah, I would describe it as a happy one.

I was born to a pair of musicians, and so music was always a part of my life.

And at the age of four, I demanded a cello.

And I do mean demanded.

I was fairly insistent on the subject.

There was no diverting me at all.

And that was because I had a babysitter who played the cello.

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