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Hello and welcome to Women of Balls, where I Katie Balls speak to today's

trailblazers.

My guest today was born in Glasgow and grew up in East Co. Bride.

First elected to Parliament as an SMPMP.

She has served her home constituency since 2015.

After three elections under the SMP, she defected to the Scottish

Conservatives in 2023, announcing also plans to step down at the next election. Before Parliament,

she worked as a variety of roles within the NHS and was also a trade union representative,

and she was the first clinical psychologist elected to the House of Commons.

When she switched her allegiance to the Tories, whom's the use of the then First Minister,

suggested that it was the least surprising news he had had since becoming First Minister.

My guest today is Dr Lisa Cameron.

Lisa, thank you very much for coming on the podcast today.

We usually start with what I've been told sometimes as a loaded question, but was yours

a happy childhood?

Yeah, generally.

I mean, we moved from Glasgow to East Coe Bride, which is in my constituency when I was a baby.

And so we moved from a tenement house to, you know, somewhere that had parks nearby,

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