Hello and welcome to Women with Balls, where I, Katie Balls, talk to today's trailblazers.

Today I'm delighted to be joined by Lather Moran.

Moran is the Liberal Democrat MP for Oxford Western Abingdon, winning her seat in the 2017

SNAP election.

She is the first member of parliament of Palestinian descent and the first

female Liberal Democrat MP from an ethnic minority background. A former physics teacher,

Moran has quickly been dubbed a rising star and is the party's education spokesperson. She has,

however, ruled herself out of the current vacancy for a new leader of the Liberal Democrats,

explaining her decision, she said, is just not the right time, although I have not closed the

door on it, perhaps in the future. So, Leith, thank you very much for joining us today. Thanks for

having me. And it's the Tory leadership contest. It almost feels like the Liberal Democrat contest

is that harmony and peace and comparison.

I think it is actually, honestly. So I've been asked a few times and people side love,

who are you backing? Who are you backing? And the answer is no one yet if I need to because I'm

genuinely happy with both. And they're both saying very similar things. They're both very much

on, you know, the right lines on party policy and all the rest of it. And they're both saying very similar things. They're both very much on, you know,

the right lines on party policy and all the rest of it. And it, yeah, it does feel like we're a big

happy family compared to the Tories right now. And you almost, perhaps it's a sign of Lib Dem modesty,

you only have two candidates in the race. I mean, at one point we had 13 in the conservative contest. I'm

surprised. It's all about proportions, I think. It's all about, and actually, you know, in the end,

why have 13, you know, quite interesting, but possibly mediocre, some of them candidates. Let's

have two excellent candidates instead. And you didn't have any of your Lib Dem colleagues sounding

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