Oh my God, hi, it's me. Dave Holmes, welcome to Troubled Waters, the show that treats popular culture as the most important kind of culture.

Oh, we celebrate it and we rip it apart. And to do that, we put a pair of entertainers against each other in a pop culture battle to the ego death.

To win this battle, each guest will be called upon to use their smarts, their rhetorical skills, the great comebacks that

they wished they had said in the moment back in eighth grade to earn the coveted Troubled

Waters title Punted Emeritus, which will automatically give their opinion on just how hot

that vampire-less stat trailer looks, more weight than a civilian's. Let's dive in, y'all. You're listening to Troubled Waters. And let's meet our guests.

Our first contestant is a comic, and you can check out her newest album, Gen Z

and her website for tour dates. It's Jenny Zagrino. Hello, Jenny. Hello. What is your website?

I just said your website. Great. Jenny'sagrino.com. That is my website. Boom. Jenny, where are you zooming in from?

I'm zooming in from Queens, New York.

Love it.

Right now, but, you know, we never know where I'm zooming from.

You're busy Jenny.

Yeah.

Tell us about Gen Z.

It was a pandemic special, so it was kind of about my musings about being a millennial

and dealing with Gen Z.

It was kind of just at the rise of Gen Z coming up, you know, being their weird, wonderful

selves, and I don't like it.

So I was like, no, none of this, none of this is BS. Okay. And guess what? Guess who was right?

Guess who? Ultimately, it could be argued.

Ultimately, it could be argued. Gen Z is the downfall of society. But we're not here to

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