Oh, hello there, boys and ghouls.

It's me, Dave Holmes. Welcome to Troubled Waters. The show that treats popular culture as the most important kind of culture. We celebrate it. We rip it apart. And to do that, we pit a pair of entertainers against each other in a pop culture battle to the ego death. To win this battle, each guest will be called upon to use their smarts, their rhetorical skills, the comebacks they've been saving in that, well, part of their brain that's just for that. To earn the coveted Troubauders title Pundit Emeritus, which will automatically give their opinion on, let's say, Bella Lugosi versus Boris Karloff, more weight than a civilians. By the way, if their answer is not Frank Langella,

they're wrong.

You're listening to Troubled Waters.

Thank you. Let's meet our guest.

Our first contestant is the co-host of horror movie survival guide and horror X. It's our old friend Terry Gamble. Hello, Terry Gamble. Oh, my God, Dave Holmes. Thank you for having me back. I'm so happy to see you. Thank you. So much for being here. It's great to see you. Oh, my God. What an honor. Yeah. Come on. No, seriously. honor is all mine. You know I know, I've been obsessed with you since, like, the days of MTV and, like, your voice and, you know, who you are and culture. Oh, Terry. And to hang out and talk spooky things with you today. Are you kissing so much, but? Are you just going to climb up there right now? I am. I am. But you know what? You know what? It's because it's all true. So that's why I can say it so easily. You are much too kind and you are one of our favorites and that is why you are here and we are so delighted that you are. Terry, how was karaoke last night? Oh my gosh. You know, incredible getting in the spooky season, I love love Skaediyoki, so people were bringing out some of their Ska-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-hits, like some Night More Before Christmas. I did the Monster Mash. It was a graveyard smash, you know. Of course it was. So I love a song about a song. But also, I saw someone posit yesterday that maybe that song is not about a graveyard dance.

Maybe it's actually about an orgy.

And I thought, it made me think about the song very differently.

And I was like, the internet giving us new ideas for an old old song.

And Boris has like, I think, I feel like it made like 10 different versions of that song.

There's like a Christmas one.

There's like, they're all so bad. There's like a Christmas one. There's like all.

They're all so bad. It's a regular monster mash. Yeah. Each one. Monster mash on your head. Yeah. The diminishing returns of the month. I think we talked about this maybe last time. It's so funny. But yeah, more, more mashing. I don't remember the one on your bed. Yeah. I'm upset.

That's the one I tried on you, Anastasia, and you said no.

Oh.

No, you said, I'm upset. That's the one I tried on you, Anastasia, and you said no.

Oh.

No, you said, I'm not ready to go there.

Wow, I must have been a mood.

Mm-hmm.

Wow.

Terry, welcome our second contestants film Gaslighter.

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