Hey, welcome to another episode of the Modern War Institute podcast.

I'm John Amble, editorial director at MWI.

And for this episode, we're reaching back into the archives a bit and sharing a conversation

we first published about a year and a half ago, featuring four really interesting guests who shared some thoughts on a broad but really important topic,

women in security.

I'm Michelle Malvesti, and I'm currently professor of practice in international security studies

at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy of the Tufts University.

Michelle Schmidt, currently the Director of Intelligence for Special Operations Command.

Jen Bokner, I'm the Deputy Commanding General for Joint Task Force areas at US Cyber Command.

Jan Easterly, I'm the Managing Director and Global Head of the Cybersecurity Fusion Center at Morgan Stanley.

All four of my guests have been remarkably successful in their careers in national security, and it would be difficult to find a group who is better positioned to talk about this particular topic.

In the conversation you're about to hear, they discuss some of the challenges that women often face

in the military and in security related fields more broadly.

But they also talk about the cultural changes they've witnessed throughout their careers,

about the role of mentorship and their experiences on both sides of mentorship relationships,

and about both the history and future of women pioneering new paths in national security.

Before we get to the conversation, just a few quick notes.

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