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Life and Art from FT Weekend

Women After Weinstein, with Laura Bates and Reni Eddo-Lodge. Plus: Leila Slimani on motherhood

Life and Art from FT Weekend

Forhecz Topher

Tv & Film, Arts, Society & Culture

4.6601 Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2018

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

What’s the role of feminism in the #MeToo era? We talk to Laura Bates, founder of the Everyday Sexism project, and Reni Eddo-Lodge, author of the bestselling Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race, about where we are — and where we’re heading. Plus: French writer Leila Slimani on work, motherhood and her Prix Goncourt-winning novel Lullaby.


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0:00.0

Hello, this is Everything Else, the FT Culture Podcast.

0:09.0

I'm Grizalda and today is International Women's Day.

0:13.0

I'll be talking to two of the leading writers and feminists and two of my personal heroes,

0:18.0

Laura Bates and Rennie Edo Lodge, about sexism and the Me Too moment. Where are we now and what next?

0:23.6

Later I'll be talking to the best-selling French writer Leila Slamani, who won the pre-goncourt for her novel Lullaby.

0:34.6

So as you will know, if you've been living on the planet for the past six months,

0:39.3

there has been a radical shift in the way that we talk about sexism and specifically sexual harassment.

0:45.0

The allegations against Harvey Weinstein, of course, unleashed many more across Hollywood, the media,

0:49.9

politics, tech. It seemed that nowhere was exempt. But this is really more than a news story.

0:56.1

This is daily life for women and for men too. And this is something that I really care about.

1:02.6

It wasn't until quite recently, in fact, probably around 2012, 2013, that I really started thinking about feminism.

1:09.6

It was then that it started entering the mainstream

1:11.8

press much more people were writing think pieces about fourth wave feminism. Before then it seemed

1:17.3

like it wasn't part of the conversation quite so much. Of course I knew about sexism. I'd

1:21.7

experienced it firsthand as most women living in the world have. I had even experienced sexual harassment. I was sent

1:29.6

hardcore pornography by email when I was 13. I was at school and the boys who did it, or I think

1:37.9

one boy who did it was expelled, but nobody talked to me about it. Nobody sat me down and said

1:42.8

that this was wrong, that this is not

1:45.4

what sex looks like, this is not how women should be treated. And so I thought a lot about sexism.

1:52.4

I think any woman that you talk to will have a story like this, will have been groped on the

1:56.7

tube, will have been cat-called, and much, much worse. But it wasn't until recently, as I said,

2:02.6

that I really joined the dots and I put all of these life experiences, my own life experiences

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