Hello, this is Everything Else, the FT Culture Podcast.

I'm Griselda and this week we're bringing you two literary heavyweights, Peter Carey and J.M. Cotsia.

The twice Booker Prize winner Peter Carey recently published a new novel which deals with Australia's difficult colonial history.

And later, we've got a new short story written and read by another writer who's also won two booker prizes and a Nobel, J.M. Kotzier.

The Australian novelist Peter Carey probably needs little introduction.

He's most famous for his novels The True History of the Kelly Gang, Oscar and Lucinda,

and Parrott and Olivier in America.

And his new book, A Long Way From Home, deals with some of the same themes,

the self-mythologising of a, inverted commas, new country, like Australia.

But unlike those books, it's not just about a kind of recent mythology, a recent history, a recent peoples,

but also the deep history of the indigenous population of Australia.

It's about land and maps and maps of the mind and how one imagination of one

people can be grafted onto another. It starts off in a similar vein to some of his other books.

It has a funny kind of picaresque journey quality. It's about three people travelling around Australia

on a kind of adventure. But for me, at least, halfway through the book,

it turns into something really quite different.

It becomes a different sort of novel.

And as I said, this is the first time

that Peter Carey has really, in a schematic way,

dealt with Aboriginal histories.

I thought it was a fascinating book.

I've been enjoying his book since I was a teenager,

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