Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm Matthew Petrucick, senior director of the Word on Fire Institute

and the new host of the Word on Fire Show. Thank you for joining us.

Higher Education in crisis. According to Fortune magazine,

overall undergraduate enrollment has dropped over 8% from 2019 to 2022, which is the steepest rate in decline on record.

And the picture has only worsened since then.

There are several explanation for these plummeting numbers, including the residual effects of the pandemic, ballooning costs, student debt, and the demographic decline.

Fewer children being born, it eventually means fewer college students.

However, another cause is entirely self-imposed.

Most universities and colleges have now replaced education with ideology, subverting the search for truth with political indoctrination.

Today to discuss this ideological takeover of higher education and how the Catholic

conception of the university can help provide an antidote is Bishop Robert

Baron. Well Bishop, before we begin, how does it feel to be in the Word on Fire studios in your own

diocese doing this it's good you know Brandon proposed this show a long time

ago and what I had in mind was this that we'd have two people you know together and

then I was sent to California as a

Bishop you know he was in Orlando and so it just developed as the two of us as kind of

talking head side by side but my original idea was just this so I, yes, to be in the same room with you.

Cons delighted to be in the same room with you.

So we're talking today about whether there's a Catholic antidote to the crisis in higher education.

So let's start by referring to an article

that you recently wrote entitled,

Ivy League Presidents and the Collapse of Moral Reasoning.

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