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🗓️ 11 September 2023
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Friends, why are we so tempted to scapegoat people, especially online? And how do we escape that trap?
On today’s episode of “The Word on Fire Show,” Brandon Vogt and I discuss the great Catholic philosopher René Girard and his theory of scapegoating.
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0:00.0 | If look everybody, look how divided we are, wouldn't it be better for one as tragic as that might be |
0:06.2 | for one to die rather than we all be destroyed? That's the old logic. What does the gospel do? |
0:12.0 | Is it fractures that logic? Because God is not a proving of scapegoating violence, |
0:17.6 | God is identifying with the victim of scapegoating violence. And thereby, this is Gerard, |
0:24.3 | pulled back the veil on this whole demonic process. |
0:37.6 | Welcome back to The Word on Fire Show. I'm Brandon Vaat, the host and the senior publishing |
0:42.6 | director at Word on Fire. Why are so many of us tempted to scapegoat people, especially online? |
0:49.7 | And how do we escape this trap? That's what we'll be discussing today with Bishop Robert Barron, |
0:54.4 | who joins us from our new studio in Rochester, Minnesota. Bishop, good to be with you as always. |
1:00.3 | Hey, Brandon, good to see you and wondering, is the hurricane heading your way down there in Florida? |
1:05.0 | Oh, it's been a terrible hurricane season for us in Florida. Record breaking number of them, |
1:09.6 | but for now, we're okay. All right, good. Good. We've been together a lot of times over the last, |
1:16.5 | I don't know, two, three months. I was just with you a couple days ago there in Rochester, |
1:20.0 | but last month, the two of us attended the annual GK Chester 10 conference. This is sponsored by |
1:26.8 | the Society of GK Chester, and in it travels around the country, but this year it was in Minneapolis, |
1:32.2 | which is just over an hour away from where you are. And so they invited you to come give the keynote |
1:36.6 | talk. Tell us about what you spoke on and what the conference was like. I love the conference. |
1:41.6 | It was a lot of fun, great people there. You know, Chester Tonyans, if something in common, |
1:45.4 | they're like their master, you know, they're bullying and joyful, and especially Dale Alquist, |
1:52.0 | you know, who's the head of that operation. And Dale's talk was so rich and smart and funny, |
1:57.6 | and you know, just delightful. I spoke on, it's the hundredth anniversary of the publication of |
2:03.2 | GK's book on St. Francis. So that was the focus of the conference. So I read that book as a kid |
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