Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm Brandon Vot the host. Bishop Aaron is not

with us today. He's taking a little bit of a break. But today we're going to continue

an episode that we started a few weeks back on John Henry Newman's idea of the development

of doctrine. If you remember, this was a talk that Bishop Aaron gave at the Pontifical

North American College in Rome a few years back. We heard the first half of this talk

a few weeks back. I think it was episode 170, 170. So if you haven't listened to that

episode yet, you want to go back and listen to the first half of the talk. But during this

episode, we're going to share the second half of this talk. If you remember, this talk

was part of a larger series that Bishop Aaron did on several of John Henry Newman's most

famous texts. This includes his spiritual autobiography, the Apologia Proveda Sua. It

also includes the grammar of Ascent, which we're going to air in a future episode. But

again, this is the second half of his talk on Newman's great text, the development of

Christian doctrine. So sit back and enjoy the talk.

In the spring of 2010, I was privileged to be a scholar and residence at the Pontifical

North American College in Rome. During my time in Rome, I delivered a series of lectures,

including the talks on John Henry Newman. I was attempting to show the still remarkable

relevance of Newman's thought to the life of a church in our time.

Now, let me try to make this a little more concrete or precise by making a comparison

to games. A lot of academics now are doing this game theory stuff, which is really interesting,

I think. And I think the game analogy applies very well here. I found it to be very fruitful

in understanding this. Anyone that's dealt with, let's say kids, you're

trying to get kids to play baseball, right? What's the one thing you can't do? Bunch of

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