WOF 117: Who is Jordan Peterson?
The Word on Fire Show - Catholic Faith and Culture
Brandon Vogt
4.9 • 5.5K Ratings
🗓️ 5 March 2018
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Dr. Jordan Peterson, a clinical psychologist and mythology enthusiast, has exploded onto the scene, becoming the world's most popular intellectual figure in just a few short months. Who is he and what should know about him? And why have his ideas gained so much traction, especially young men? Over the next couple episodes, Bishop Barron and Brandon Vogt discuss the Jordan Peterson phenomenon and reflect on his work from a Catholic perspective. A listener asks whether it's fine to use secular mindfulness meditation to relieve anxiety.
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Topics Discussed
- 0:04 - Introduction, Bishop spends time with Jim Caviezel
- 4:45 - How did Bishop Barron first come to know Jordan Peterson?
- 7:20 - Who are some of the philosophical influences of Jordan Peterson?
- 10:40 - Why does Jordan Peterson place such an emphasis on the Bible?
- 14:10 - How does Peterson view Nietzsche and our reaction to life's suffering?
- 24:05 - What is Jordan Peterson's reading of the Garden of Eden in Genesis?
- 28:15 - What is Jordan Peterson's take on Buddhism and Christian redemptive suffering?
- 30:00 - Why does Jordan Peterson believe you should absolutely never tell a lie?
- 33:00 - Why has Jordan Peterson become so popular especially amongst young men?
- 37:30 - Listener question: Is it okay for a Catholic to engage in secular mindfulness meditation in order to relieve anxiety?
Bonus Resources
- Articles
- The Jordan Peterson Phenomenon (Bishop Barron)
- 12 Rules: The Review (Matthew Hosier)
- What Pastors Could Learn from Jordan Peterson (Alastair Roberts)
- Videos
- Books
- 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos (Jordan Peterson)
- Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief (Jordan Peterson)
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm Brandon Vat the host. I'm the content director |
| 0:09.8 | at Word on Fire. And joining us is Bishop Robert Barron. Bishop Barron live from Santa Barbara. |
| 0:15.9 | Welcome and how you doing? Hey Brandon, I'm good and you're over there in Orlando. We're across |
| 0:20.8 | the continent, but it sounds like you're right next door. It's the, it's called the miracle of |
| 0:25.5 | technology. It is. Well listen, you recently spent some time with Jesus. Yeah. I don't just |
| 0:31.9 | mean the blessed sacrament in your chapel. I mean you hung out with the icon of the icon of the |
| 0:37.5 | invisible God who is Jim Kavizel who played Jesus and Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ. Tell us |
| 0:43.2 | about that. It was fun. Yeah. There was an advanced screening of his new movie on St. Paul. And |
| 0:48.8 | TJ Burden, who I know for a long time, is the producer of that movie and they came out. It was nice |
| 0:52.9 | to them to Santa Barbara. They showed it to about six or seven of us. And then at the last minute, |
| 0:58.4 | Jim Kavizel's pastor, who's a guy that I know here, he's in my pastoral region, he said, |
| 1:03.4 | hey, Jim wanted to come by and see you. Would tomorrow be okay? I said, well, as it turns out, |
| 1:09.7 | we're watching his movie tomorrow. So we watched the movie and then sure enough, this pastor, |
| 1:14.7 | Father Rocha and Jim Kavizel show up. And it was great. It was intense. I never met him before. |
| 1:21.1 | It is a little bit odd. You know, when you're as a Catholic, when he even watched that movie a lot |
| 1:28.0 | and then suddenly right next to you is that face, you know, Jesus. And he's a very intense guy, |
| 1:33.2 | a very bright, very spiritually alert, full of focus and energy around the church. So it was a good |
| 1:42.2 | lunch, very interesting. And I hope we have a chance to follow up. Did he talk about what sort of |
| 1:48.7 | change it had on his life playing Jesus? And for my generation, years too, anybody who grew up with |
| 1:54.9 | this film, I mean, he is the face of Jesus for a lot of people. What does that do to a person? |
| 1:59.9 | No, I think it had a big impact on him, you know, and he often tells the story. He told it again |
| 2:03.8 | that at the time of that movie, he was 33, his initials were JC. And he said, |
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