WN TBD: Which Tech Companies Are Doing the Most Harm?
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🗓️ 24 January 2020
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Summary
Last week, Slate published The Evil List, an expansive attempt to document the most concerning tech companies around the world, according to the experts. Some you’ve heard of, some you probably haven’t, and some you almost certainly use every day. Which of these deserve our attention? And why?
Guests:
Mutale Nkonde, public interest technologist and fellow at the Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society
Felix Salmon, chief financial correspondent at Axios and host of Slate Money
Lindsey Barrett, staff attorney and teaching fellow at the Institute for Public Representation Communications & Technology Clinic.
Host
Lizzie O’Leary
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| 0:00.0 | Can I just be really pedantic and ask you to just say hello in your full name? |
| 0:09.3 | Yes. Hello and it's Lindsay Barrett. |
| 0:12.5 | Lindsay teaches and is an attorney at the Public Representation Communications and Technology Clinic at Georgetown Law School. |
| 0:19.8 | I'm Felix Salmon. |
| 0:21.3 | I am the chief financial correspondent at Axios. |
| 0:24.9 | Felix also co-hosts the Slate Money podcast. |
| 0:28.1 | I'm Mattalian Kande. |
| 0:30.2 | I feel like I'm the fellow of all fellow, fellow, fellows, |
| 0:33.9 | but I'm a public interest technologist. |
| 0:36.7 | Right now, she's got fellowships at the |
| 0:38.9 | Birkman-Kline Center for Internet Society at Harvard, as well as the Digital Society Lab at Stanford. |
| 0:45.0 | She's also worked in Congress. All three of them are really smart people who think a lot about tech. |
| 0:51.2 | And we made them think about it in this little exercise called the evil list. |
| 0:56.8 | Slate sent ballots to some 200 scholars, journalists, and activists, including Lindsay, Felix, |
| 1:03.0 | and Mattali. We asked them to tell us which tech companies they're most concerned about, and we |
| 1:08.7 | let them decide for themselves what counts as concerning. |
| 1:12.4 | And yeah, evil is our word. It's a play on Google's old motto, don't be evil. |
| 1:18.3 | Figuring out which companies went where on the list was complicated. Here's Lindsay. |
| 1:23.5 | It was incredibly hard, especially given that you're kind of designing your own criteria and I realized that anything stupid I came up with would have to be something I would have to defend. |
| 1:34.0 | It's not as though you're having a late-night fight with friends over who's more evil. |
| 1:38.1 | We ended up with a list of 30 companies, which we published on Slate's website. |
| 1:42.9 | Some you've heard of. some you probably haven't, |
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