Wintering with Our Feelings (Katherine May)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Elise Loehnen

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Education

4.8 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Trying to bring the best sparkly version of yourself to your own healing: It just doesn't work, says Katherine May. In this conversation, we return to May’s New York Times–bestselling book Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times. It feels more relevant now than ever. We talk about finding a home for lingering, unexpressed grief and for vast, unsettled feelings. We talk about rest, creative work that we love, and things that make us laugh—and Katherine May always makes me laugh. For the show notes, including links to May’s books and our previous podcast conversations together, head over to my Substack. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread. My guest today is Catherine May, the New York Times best-selling author of Wintering and Enchantment.
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0:49.5	Hi, it's Elise Loonan, host of Pulling the Thread. On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here.
0:59.4	My hope is that these conversations spark moments of resonance and plant tiny seeds of awareness so that we might all collectively learn and grow.
1:09.6	Here is today's guest, Catherine May, on being in contact with our emotions and the world around us.
1:15.6	We might see wintering as this defined phase where we are struggling.
1:20.9	I wanted to talk about being in contact with our emotions on an everyday basis and how we build an architecture that lets us
1:30.5	feel our feelings, feel doubtful, feel uncertain, not always be achieving the stuff that we
1:39.5	want to achieve, and how we make contact with the world through that every day.
1:46.2	I love Catherine May and all of her books.
1:48.7	She's been on the podcast a few times, but I wanted to have her back this season to talk
1:52.7	about the topic of her first book, Wintering, The Power of Rest and Retreat and Difficult
1:57.4	Times.
1:58.3	It is, I believe, more relevant now than ever. Catherine thinks and talks
2:02.9	beautifully about following the imperfect paths of our lives and the long arcs of our stories,
2:08.6	as opposed to trying to rush our way through each phase. She helps us to be with sadness and
2:13.7	grief and to recognize, as she says, that you don't need to bring the best sparkly
2:18.3	version of yourself to your own healing. What a relief. Catherine also brings us so much joy.
2:25.4	She made me laugh throughout our conversation, and not surprisingly, we threaded our way
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