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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

"Wintering," wisdom, and weathering life's darkest times

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2021

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Vox's Sigal Samuel talks with the author of Wintering, Katherine May, about the lessons we can learn during life's darkest seasons. They talk about our long collective pandemic winter, about how times of retreat can allow for personal and political transformation, and about how we might carry new wisdom with us as we emerge into spring. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:07.8

Conversation about our long collective pandemic winter.

1:12.2

About how times of retreat can allow for personal and political transformation.

1:17.2

About how we might carry some new wisdom with us as we emerge into spring.

1:21.6

Here is Segold.

1:30.8

I want to confess a secret to you.

1:33.2

I hate the pandemic as much as the next person.

1:39.2

But there's a part of me that actually likes some aspect of it.

1:44.4

Even though it has caused me a ton of misery and anxiety, I've also felt like it's forced

1:49.4

me to do an unusual amount of reflecting.

1:52.8

That's opened up some space for me to learn hard truths about who I am and who I want

1:58.4

to be.

1:59.6

Going through this kind of experience is what the British writer Catherine May calls

2:03.4

Wintering.

2:04.8

In her new book of that title, she explores the idea of winter, not just literally as a season

2:09.8

of cold weather, but also metaphorically as a personal season that we all go through

2:14.9

at various points in life.

2:17.2

When you're wintering, you're in a mode that's slow and reflective and detached from everyone

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