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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

The border, explained by someone who knows it intimately

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Aarti Shahani, NPR journalist and host of WBEZ podcast Art of Power, talks with investigative journalist and author Alfredo Corchado about the US-Mexico border. Trump's actions created a new urgency for the political establishment to better understand the border, and Biden's challenges there continue to grow. Corchado, a former child farmworker and a Mexican-American with identities on both sides of the border wall, discusses the reality, politics, history, and future of the border. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I've entered the Rick and Morty multiverse so many times at all for that I don't know whether I'm Rick, Morty.

0:07.3

All myself.

0:08.6

Am I Rick?

0:09.6

Am I Morty?

0:10.7

Am I me?

0:11.9

Am I Rick?

0:12.9

Am I Morty?

0:14.0

Am I me?

0:15.3

I don't know.

0:16.4

Watch now on all four.

0:18.1

The UK's biggest free-streaming service.

0:20.5

Watch and rewatch.

0:21.5

Watch and rewatch.

0:22.2

Watch and rewatch.

0:22.8

Go for me.

0:23.6

Compare Channel4.com slash verify.

0:26.9

Hey, this is Sean Elling, occasional host of Vox Conversations.

0:30.5

But I'm here today to introduce an episode hosted by NPR journalist and WBEZ podcast host,

0:36.3

Arthi Shahani.

0:37.7

Arthi is back this week on Vox Conversations to talk with Mexican-American investigative journalist

0:42.5

and author Alfredo Cuchado about the U.S. Mexico border.

0:46.3

With a legacy of Trump era policies and Biden's ever-increasing challenges there as backdrop,

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