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Good afternoon Michael Malice here. Let

that be your welcome for the next

hour. We have with us a dear friend

of mine and a welcome return guest Winston Marshall host of the Winston Marshall show banjo enthusiast co founder of dissident dialogues.

He handed Nancy Pelosi her ass at an Oxford debate, which was very pleasing to see if you guys haven't watched it yet about democracy versus populism. I had the joy spending time with him when he was in town. Sadly, a few months ago now, hopefully

we'll cross paths in the very near future. Winston, there's so much I want to talk to you about,

and one of the things I do want to talk to you about first and foremost is the state of Great Britain.

Because American and British politics in many ways follow each other. Thatcher's election

in 79, preceded Reagan in 80, Brexit preceded Trump's huge upset in 2016, and it seemed

like it was very possible that the huge labor landslide last summer would have preceded

Officer Harris winning the 2024 election here, which did not in fact happen. And I think in

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