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Good afternoon, Michael Malis here.

Let that be your welcome for the next hour.

We have with us a special returning guest, James O'Keefe, citizen journalist.

He is the founder and exiled of Project Veritas. He now runs O'Keefe Media Group. Author of three books. I'm looking them right now in my shelf, breakthrough, citizen, American Muckraker and American Provd. I've read them all and enjoyed them all. James, we have a lot to discuss

about your work and about the legal situation you're involved in. I just saw a little bit of a piece you released about Project Veritas and it's said like you're in talks to return. Can you

fill the readers, for listeners in on what's all about?

Well, I just testified in federal court literally yesterday and then I confronted a pharmaceutical

executive.

So that's a day in the life of James O'Keefe.

I'm an ongoing litigation with Project Veritas and I am in talks to get it back.

I can't disclose more than those details because I promised the court that I wouldn't.

What I did make this film while this was going on called the Truth Inside Veritas,

which you just watched. It's a movie about what happened and my, my ouster.

And then there's a lot to dive into this. So where do you want to start?

Well, well, the first thing I want to start is it seems to me everything I've always been told is that if litigation's going on

You keep your big fat mouth shut and you don't discuss it because anything

And this is a really fascinating thing. I was literally in federal court in New York yesterday. They sued me personally fired me

Right, fire me number 10th 2023 and. And then they indefinitely suspended me without pay.

So they expected me to keep being theirs,

but that's like slavery.

So I just just started a new organization.

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