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Well, and so that gets us into the rise know, the rise of the U.S. and things were going well here

for a while until we erupted into our own civil war. And this particular chapter in your

book, I know you mentioned, you said more people write you about this chapter than anyone

else. I thought it was just super interesting.

I am very biased, though, as I mentioned to you before the show, I grew up in Tennessee.

My uncle used to collect Civil War artifacts like bullets and all of these things.

He's big into metal detecting. So I grew up around these stories. And a lot of the places I lived in

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