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Hello there, I'm Fern Cotton and this is Happy Place, the show where we discover the reserves

of people's mental strength by having a little bit of a chat with some interesting folks.

Today, strap in because we're off to meet the Iceman, Wim Hof.

The bullshit is not yours, don't attract bullshit, don't identify with bullshit,

bullshit needs to be on the saw, can I say just probably fertile for the ground,

but not within you. It messes with your biochemistry, it messes with your neurology, it's not yours.

As you might know, Wim has pioneered the use of the cold as a treatment for all kinds of things

from depression to boosting your immune system. Now, Wim has his critics and, of course,

other views and treatments are available. Cold showers are one thing, but for anything else,

please do check in with your doctor first. And now on with the show!

Yay! Hi, Wim Hof, I'm Fern.

Your name is Cotton. Fern Cotton. Fern, Fern. I love Ferns.

Thank you, they're good, aren't they? Yeah, beautiful.

Ferns, they're beautiful. I know. You're also beautiful.

Oh, bless you. Thank you, Wim Hof. This is a total joy and a pleasure. I'm such a huge fan,

and I've wanted to quiz you on this podcast for a very long time, so it's an amazing

opportunity for me to unpick what you do a little further. And I've also got an early copy of your

book that I've read, which I raced through a phenomenal book, The Wim Hof Method. It's kind of

part memoir and part practical, which I loved as well, as I learned a lot more about your life,

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