William Galston on 2024 and Trump's Conviction

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.6 • 907 Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2024

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Yascha Mounk and William Galston discuss why neither the Democrats or Republicans have been able to build a durable governing majority. William Galston is an author and academic who holds the Ezra K. Zilker Chair in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution. Galston was also deputy assistant for domestic policy to President Bill Clinton. His latest book is Anti-Pluralism: The Populist Threat to Liberal Democracy. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and William Galston discuss why cultural questions have become as important as economic issues in deciding elections; why the period following the 2024 election will afford political opportunities to ideological upstarts in both parties; and the outsized influence of “dark passions" like humiliation and resentment in voting behavior. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	History.
0:01.0	What does this make you think of?
0:04.0	Swords, armor, castles, cannons, trenches, tanks, tanks?
0:10.0	Or perhaps it makes you think of bravery, courage, resistance.
0:15.6	We shall fight on the beaches and in the streets.
0:19.6	Uncover a thousand years of incredible defensive stories, a brand new series defending Europe,
0:26.0	Mondays at nine on National Geographic.
0:28.6	The phrase uncharted waters hardly does justice to that hypothetical,
0:36.7	Yasha. I don't know how it would play out. It's interesting to contemplate one amusing hypothetical that I've heard, is that, you know, he would receive probation, plus an order to perform community service.
0:53.7	Now, it would be wonderful to find out
0:57.6	what President Trump's understanding
1:01.0	of community service would be in those circumstances.
1:04.1	The mind reels.
1:05.4	He would no doubt argue that deporting 15 billion illegal immigrants was the greatest
1:12.0	service that anybody on the face of the earth
1:14.5	could render to the American Republic. Look, the mind reels. And now the good fight
1:21.7	with Yasha Monk.
1:29.0	Hello, my name is Luke Hallam.
1:30.0	I'm senior editor at persuasion and I recently wrote an article called What's Bugging
1:34.5	Ron Desantis. Now this is a short article examining a new law in Florida that essentially bans
1:40.0	fake meat. By fake meat, I mean the kind of fake chicken or beef that's grown in a
1:44.4	petri dish rather than coming from an animal. It's not really meat at all.
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