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The Good Fight

Daryl Davis on Befriending the Klan

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2024

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Yascha Mounk and Daryl Davis discuss his lifetime of convincing Ku Klux Klan members to renounce racism. Daryl Davis is an American R&B and blues musician, author and social activist. Davis estimates he has been the direct or indirect cause for over 200 conversions from the Klan. He is also co-founder of the Prohuman Foundation. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Daryl Davis discuss how a childhood experience with racism inspired him to interview and befriend members of the Ku Klux Klan; the importance of remaining “pro-human” even in the face of hatred and bigotry; and whether his faith in humanity feels out of tune with the current political moment. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: podcast@persuasion.community Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:05.4

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0:07.8

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0:08.8

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0:09.8

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0:11.2

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0:18.0

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0:20.0

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0:31.0

I'm not anti-racist, racist being a noun, I'm anti-racism. I'm not against the person.

0:41.1

I'm against the person's message, their ideology.

0:45.0

That's why I continue to work with these people.

0:48.0

I know they can do better.

0:50.0

I know if they can see something that they never saw before and give them reason to rethink

0:56.7

that chances are they'll go in the right direction.

0:59.1

There will be people who are hateful, violent, and racist, and they will go to their graves being hateful, violent,

1:05.7

and racist.

1:06.7

I know many of those people.

1:08.2

Some of them, though, have surprised me and change and come back and apologize to me. Even some of those that I got into fights with.

1:15.5

I say, don't be anti-racist, be pro-human, be anti-racism.

1:21.0

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. On Wednesday Rishi Sunak stepped outside number 10 Downing Street in the streaming rain and announced that there would be

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