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Bad Gays

William Beckford

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

History

4.5 • 934 Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2026

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

William Beckford, who was born not in Bath but in London in 1760, is someone for whom property, in every sense of the word, was the defining factor in his life. He was a novelist, a member of parliament, a collector of art, antiquities, and books, a travel writer, and a builder of great palaces; he regarded himself as a man of culture, but he made his cultural qualities known by buying and building things. And he could afford to buy and build things - ridiculous things - because he was rich, extraordinarily rich, richer than we can possibly imagine. So all his status, his legacy, the thing that made him who he was, came from his wealth, and his wealth came from another form of property he owned: chattel slaves. And that wealth also enabled him to pursue troubling relationships with boys. ----more---- SOURCES James Lees-Milne, William Beckford (Compton Press, 1976) J. W. Oliver, The Life of William Beckford (Oxford University Press, 1932) Guy Chapman, William Beckford (Scribner, 1937) Caroline Stanford, Beckford’s Tower History Album (National Trust) A number of essays on Rictor Norton’s website about him including “The Fool at Fonthill” https://www.rictornorton.co.uk/ Our intro music is Arpeggia Colorix by Yann Terrien, downloaded from WFMU's Free Music Archive and distributed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Our outro music is by DJ Michaeloswell Graphicsdesigner.

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0:00.0

Hey, this is Ben here to let you know that today's episode contains discussions of childhood sexual abuse.

0:08.5

If that is not something you want to hear discussions of, today's episode is not the one for you.

0:13.5

For everyone else, it's a great episode. Please enjoy. Good evening, everybody.

0:33.6

Good evening. Hello and welcome to a very special episode of Bad Gaze Live from

0:41.5

Guildhall and Bath. Thank you so much for being here. I'm Ben Miller. I'm a writer and researcher,

0:46.9

currently at work on a biography of the fashion designer Rudy Gernerick. And I'm Hugh Lemmy, a writer and

0:52.3

artist. And we're so happy to be here at

0:54.7

Guildhall and Bath. Thanks so much to Queer Bath for having us. Thanks so much to Nick Yavchichs for

1:00.9

hosting us and jazz and everybody else who's been so wonderful here. And thank you all so much

1:05.4

for coming. So ordinarily, this is the time when I would say who we talked about last week, but there

1:11.7

wasn't a last week.

1:13.0

But Hugh, who are we talking about this week?

1:16.9

I do feel a little bit like I'm bringing Colston, Newcastle, by talking about William Beckford

1:21.0

here in Bath.

1:21.8

And I'm sure that many of you here will, his presence will be well understood to you, because

1:25.2

his legacy is left, like his vast collections of art,

1:29.6

and his tower, Beckford's tower, his beautiful building he had built as a retreat from the city.

1:34.7

But his material legacy is actually probably a good place to discuss a man who was decidedly both evil and very complicated queer from history.

1:42.7

And that's because William Beckford, who was born not in Bath, but in London in 1760,

1:47.5

is someone for human property in every sense of the word

1:50.4

was really the defining factor of his life.

1:54.1

He was a novelist, a member of parliament,

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