Welcome back to the City Journal podcast. I'm your host, Charles F. Lehmann, senior editor of City Journal.

Joining me on panel today are Jesse Arm, Judge Glock, Rina McCurgy, all invited panelists, all from the

Manhattan Institute, all frequent contributors to City Journal.

Thank you all.

I feel like by now everybody knows how everybody is.

If you don't, welcome to the podcast for the first time.

You'll get a sense of the personality is real fast.

I'll take into the story that we've been following for a little bit on here that really

continues to grow.

Last week, President Trump said he was considering sending more National Guard troops into

Chicago, New York, Baltimore.

There's been pushback from leaders in all those cities, but in response to his deployment

in D.C. That obviously got a lot of criticism. Democrats have to charge Trump with having

some nasty ulterior motive, like, you know, he wants to use the National Guard to conquer

New York City. I mean, that is the theory of the case. It's like it's, you know, allegedly fascistic. You know, at the same time, I want to talk about this on two levels. One is I'm interested in the, you know, the prudence of this policy. Like, is this a good approach? Do we like the idea of the feds getting more involved in public safety? I feel like Judge and I can disagree about that. and then two is also the politics I think this is a really interesting thing for the Democrats

where... more involved in public safety. I feel like Judge and I can disagree about that.

And then, too, is also the politics. I think this is a really interesting thing for the Democrats where, you know, public safety is a losing issue for them. And so they can't really

position themselves as being against public safety. So they have to argue that Donald Trump

is actually being soft on crime by sending in the National Guard. So I think that's another

interesting angle.

But let me throw that out to the panel.

What do we make of the latest development in this story?

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