Because basically what the church has said on technology on AI until now is everything that is serving the human nature and the human beings, it's positive.

Everything that is allowed people to flourish, it's really positive.

So we don't have a problem with AI.

We could have a problem with some hands of some human using the AI.

Hello and welcome to TechMont Save Usus made in partnership with The Nation magazine.

I'm your host, Paris Marx, and this week my guest is Paolo Bonanti.

Paolo is an author, academic, and priest.

He teaches at the Pontifical Gregorian University and was an advisor to Pope Francis on artificial intelligence and technology ethics.

Now, as you probably know, we have a new Pope.

Pope Leo the 14th was chosen to follow Pope Francis in May. And of course, there are a lot of

significant things about that development. But one of the things that stood out to me and one of the

things that is relevant here on a critical technology podcast is how one of the first things

that Pope Leo started talking about

was AI, what it meant for people, what it meant for workers. And that really caught my attention

for a few reasons. First of all, just to hear him talking about that seemed significant. You know,

the question of what he might do in response, whether the Vatican, the Roman Catholic

Church, are going to take a position on artificial intelligence and wade more into this

conversation is something that I think that we should be looking for, aware of, keeping track

of, because obviously the Roman Catholic Church has a lot of influence, a lot of followers.

And so that could really impact any

conversation that we're having about this technology. Also, because by calling himself Pope Leo,

the new modern Pope Leo was also kind of setting himself up to follow the previous one, who was a

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