Will the indictments actually help Donald Trump?
The News Agents
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🗓️ 4 August 2023
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Donald Trump was indicted for a third time this week and a fourth is on the way. He emerged from a DC courthouse this week actually inviting more - he thinks it's helping him, feeding into a long-established persecution complex which he feels will been a key asset in his bid to be re-elected.
In this episode, we ask a simple question: is he right? And is he right everywhere? If it is helping him secure the Republican nomination, will all this actually end up hurting his chances of obtaining the thing he truly craves - the presidency itself?
And in the latest of our extended political conversations Lewis talks to Labour peer and refugee champion Lord Alf Dubbs about a political life which stretches back to Clement Attlee and Nazi-occupied Prague.
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:08.1 | This is a global player original podcast. |
| 0:11.7 | This is a very sad day for America, and it was also very sad driving through Washington, D.C., |
| 0:19.1 | and seeing the filth and the decay and all of the broken |
| 0:24.1 | buildings and walls and the graffiti. This is not the place that I left. It's a very sad thing |
| 0:31.0 | to see it. When you look at what's happening, this is a persecution of a political opponent. |
| 0:39.3 | This was never supposed to happen in America. This is the persecution of the person that's leading by very, very substantial |
| 0:45.5 | numbers in the Republican primary and leading Biden by a lot. So if you can't beat him, you |
| 0:52.1 | persecute him or you prosecute them. |
| 0:56.4 | We can't let this happen in America. |
| 0:57.2 | Thank you very much. |
| 1:04.6 | That was, of course, Donald Trump, on a tarmac in Washington before his flight home to Florida on Thursday after being indicted. |
| 1:11.9 | Predictably, he spun a thread about his being thrice indicted for different alleged crimes that was about himself and his relationship with the American people. They're not after me, he was basically saying. They're after you. They hate |
| 1:17.8 | me, he says, because they hate you, because I am you. It's an extension of the schick which propelled |
| 1:24.6 | him to office as the unlikeliest president in American history in the first |
| 1:28.3 | place. Oresendetta, a reason to run and to keep running. He perhaps has little choice but to make |
| 1:34.4 | this grim set of events a virtue. Indeed, they go further than that. He and his campaign literally |
| 1:40.1 | say that each indictment helps him because it proves his case. So on today's episode, |
| 1:46.1 | a very simple question. Is he, are they right? Are the indictments an anchor around his neck |
| 1:52.6 | or the keys to the door to the White House to be president once more? It's Lewis here. Welcome |
| 1:58.3 | to the newsagents to the Newsagents. |
| 2:04.5 | The Newsagents. |
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