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The News Agents

Sunak, Starmer, and the death of the political interview

The News Agents

Global

Government, News, Daily News, Politics

4.15.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 August 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Rishi Sunak isn’t much good at interviews. Sir Keir Starmer isn’t that much better. It follows a pattern of politicians become less and less willing to take part in political interviews, which they see as increasingly pointless, all risk and no gain. We ask, does it matter? And why does our democracy lose, as a result?

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Torsten Bell joins Lewis to explain where it leaves households and Rishi Sunak’s re-election chances.

Editor: Tom Hughes

Senior Producer: Gabriel Radus

Social Media Editor: Georgia Foxwell

Video Producer: Will Gibson Smith

The News Agents is a Global Player Original and a Persephonica Production.

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0:00.0

The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity.

0:08.2

This is a global player original podcast.

0:11.6

Why did the Transport Secretary know about it yesterday?

0:14.7

It's important that the government, excuse me, it's very important that government acts on concerns

0:20.6

here. Sorry, is this some sort of joke?

0:22.6

I mean, how can you possibly have as a number one priority

0:26.6

cutting the deficit when you choose to spend and underspend in funding a tax cut?

0:32.6

Do you ever wake up in the morning and think, my God, what am I going to be told today? I wake up in the morning and know actually that some of my constituents will really value

0:41.3

not having to pay that little bit more on fuel prices come August.

0:46.3

You ever think you're incompetent?

0:48.3

I think it's valuable to help real people in this way and I do think that is valued by people who drive. It feels for good or ill like we've come up a long way from that.

0:58.2

Jeremy Paxman, savaging then junior minister Chloe Smith on Newsnight back in 2011,

1:04.1

a world away from ministers, even willing to be interviewed on shows like Newsnight regularly,

1:09.1

taking the sort of aggression that Paxman

1:11.2

employed against Smith. Ministers these days often just back away. How often now do we hear the phrase,

1:17.4

we ask for a minister, but no one was available. Prime ministers do fewer and fewer interviews too.

1:22.4

Rishi Sunak did a couple this week in fairness, but he doesn't much care for them, clearly.

1:26.7

His awkward

1:27.7

LBC exchanges yesterday, his terse chat with Good Morning Scotland earlier in the week. Part of a

1:33.8

prime ministerial diary done, you get the sense with dread rather than relish. We're about a year

1:39.4

away from a general election. This summer being Westminster's last real breath, drop in pulse before the countdown starts.

1:46.5

And yet, in Rishi Sunak and Kirstama, we have two political principles who in so many ways

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