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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

Will the GOP control Congress for the next decade?

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

News, Government, Politics

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2022

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

There’s at least a few people in the Democratic establishment who have hope for the midterms. They’re the redistricting experts, people like Kelly Burton. She’s a long-time political operative and the president of the National Democratic Redistricting Committee, an organization that she leads along with other top party names like former attorney general Eric Holder. The NDRC is leading the Democrats’ charge against Republican gerrymandering during the 2022 redistricting cycle. So why are Burton and her counterparts so sanguine? Because for the first time since 2018, they are confident that redistricting and numerous legal battles are making the field more hospitable for midterm victories. The NDRC is bringing lawsuits to state courts to fight what it says are illegal attempts at gerrymandering districts. Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Alabama — the list goes on. On the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, Burton tells Playbook Deep Dive host Ryan Lizza what it’s taken to draw an equitable voting map for 2022 and what she’s hoping to see in November.  Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Kelly Burton is the president of the National Democratic Redistricting Committee.Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio.Brook Hayes is a producer for POLITICO audio.Adam Allington is senior producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is executive producer for POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.6

Those maps will stand for 10 years.

0:03.7

That could mean a decade, a fairly drawn district

0:07.2

where folks have an equal voice in their government.

0:09.8

That is, of course, Barack Obama.

0:12.4

Or it could mean a decade of unfair partisan gerrymandering.

0:17.7

The former president's weirdly is obsessed

0:20.7

with redistricting.

0:23.2

Most former presidents, when they leave office,

0:25.2

focus on big global problems.

0:27.9

Bill Clinton has his Clinton Global Initiative.

0:30.6

George W. Bush is focused on spreading democracy abroad.

0:35.2

And Obama, when he's not kite surfing,

0:37.7

has his share of grand world changing ventures.

0:41.7

But in the United States, his big pet project is,

0:45.4

well, it's a little obscure, redistricting, and gerrymandering.

0:51.2

There's a reason for this.

0:52.7

Back in 2010, the Democrats were wiped out

0:56.6

during Barack Obama's first midterm election.

0:59.6

In the rush of activity, sometimes we lose track

1:04.5

of the ways that we connected with folks

1:10.0

that got us here in the first place.

1:12.0

When the states went through redistricting for the new decade,

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