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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

Will ‘extremism’ fracture the GOP? Cheney vs. Trump in Wyoming

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

News, Government, Politics

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2022

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Trump-backed candidates have lost recently in Georgia, Nebraska, North Carolina and Idaho. The biggest caveat about how the lessons of other states might apply in Wyoming is that in states where the Trump candidate lost, the non-Trump candidate was not anti-Trump. Rep. Liz Cheney’s political identity — at least, her identity on the national stage — is now defined by her criticism of the former president. The anti-Cheney effort in Wyoming has been led by Frank Eathorne, the Wyoming GOP chair and Trump’s most important ally in the state. Last weekend, Victoria Eavis of the Casper Star-Tribune and Rone Tempest of WyoFile, published a bombshell 6,500-word profile of Eathorne. On this week’s episode of Playbook Deep Dive, co-author Ryan Lizza is in the Casper Star-Tribune’s newsroom, where Eavis explains how the story came together. Plus, former chairman of the Natrona County Republican party Dr. Joseph McGinley explains what it’s like to be pushed out of his own party. Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Victoria Eavis is the state politics reporter for the Casper Star-Tribune.Dr. Joseph McGinley is a physician and former chairman of the Natrona County GOP.Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio.Brook Hayes is a producer for POLITICO audio.Adam Allington is senior producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is executive producer for POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Wyoming's Republican Party chairman, Frankie Thorne, did not respond to our invitation to talk.

0:06.0

Shocker.

0:07.0

Shocker.

0:08.0

But you told me there was no chance you would talk, huh?

0:10.0

Yeah.

0:11.0

Victoria Evis is a reporter at the Casper Star Tribune in Wyoming.

0:15.0

It's the largest of the state's few remaining newspapers.

0:18.0

It has the largest circulation in the state.

0:20.0

Yeah.

0:21.0

And you're the only political reporter.

0:22.0

Yeah.

0:23.0

Um.

0:24.0

And you're not even from here.

0:25.0

No, not today.

0:26.0

I mean, no offense.

0:27.0

No, it's a great point.

0:29.0

This is Playbook Deep Dive.

0:30.0

I'm Ryan Lizard.

0:31.0

This week, I'm in Casper, Wyoming, where three big things happened in one of the most

0:37.8

watch races in the country, the re-election campaign of Liz Cheney.

0:43.3

The week started with Victoria's 6,500-word report about the most powerful person in

0:49.0

Wyoming politics.

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