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Will the AI Bubble Burst?

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Society & Culture, Education, News

4.6 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Artificial intelligence has ignited one of the most spectacular surges of investment, hype, and technological promise, but some worry that the enthusiasm is resembling a bubble, with valuations racing ahead of fundamentals and enormous compute and energy costs that could undermine long-term profitability. But others note this bubble is different because AI is already embedded across the economy, not confined, and infrastructure is being created to sustain demand. Now we debate: Will the AI Bubble Burst?  Arguing Yes: Ryan Cummings, Chief of Staff at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research Arguing No: Magnus Grimeland, Venture Capital Investor; Founder and CEO of Antler  Emmy award-winning journalist John Donvan moderates  Join the conversation on Substack - share your perspective on this episode and subscribe to our weekly newsletter for curated insights from our debaters, moderators, and staff.  Follow us on YouTube, Instagram, LinkedIn, X, Facebook, and TikTok to stay connected with our mission and ongoing debates.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm John Donvan.

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Hi, everybody.

0:36.7

We have been doing debates about artificial intelligence for 10 or 11 years, back when the moment that we are now in seemed like some kind of fantastical, thrilling and chilling at the same time future. A very, very far off reality, if it ever did become reality. Well, here we are. It is happening.

0:56.1

Yes, it's thrilling and chilling both. And it's moving faster all the time. And part of the

1:01.5

mood that we're in right now, if you feel it, is the fear of getting left behind for things like

1:07.9

jobs and education. And quite interestingly, for people who are in business,

1:13.3

right now it feels like it's the bandwagon everybody's jumping on, every company is jumping on

1:17.9

AI. They're all, as they say, leveraging AI. And it's not just a PR move. The business world is

1:25.2

investing unprecedented amounts of money into artificial intelligence,

1:28.3

and the firms that are closest to laying the AI infrastructure like Google and Amazon and OpenAI and meta,

1:36.3

they are laying out hundreds of billions to pay for research and to construct the data centers

1:43.3

that train and run the digital machinery.

1:45.7

And it's not just because they fear getting left behind, but it's also because the financial

1:51.2

payday that has anticipated, the money to be made from AI is going to be, it is said, and not

1:57.9

going to be fantastical again, but it's really, really huge. And if you're someone

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