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If a tree falls in the forest, he'll help it get back up.

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I promised two things that I would get the body exhumed and I would get a second autopsy done.

Within two weeks we were able to accomplish that, but more importantly, Chief Kiel called me on the phone and said that I can make a public statement that South Carolina

has now changed its position that Stephen Smith was the victim of a homicide and not of a hit and run.

Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor, where we're all just trying to

survive in a rough world.

What's up, SDS Nation, and welcome to another episode

of Surviving a Survivor, the podcast that promises

and delivers on bringing you the very best guests in all of true crime and we've got a

low country reunion for you tonight. I'm looking forward to it as we all know by now

Alec Murdoch went from prominent attorney to convicted killer and now there's a growing list of questions

left in his wake and perhaps the biggest of all of them, Stephen Smith's

murder, will it be solved and will his mother Sandy finally get justice? The best guest today are here to break it all down. You

know all their faces but I'll reintroduce them. Eric Bland. He was selected

for inclusion in the South Carolina super lawyers for a gazillion years in a row for his excellence and recognition as a super lawyer in professional liability.

It was one of two in the entire state of South Carolina with this honor.

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