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The Bulwark Podcast

Will Saletan: The Guts to Tell the Truth

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 January 2024

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Chris Christie makes clear he's not dropping out, because Nikki Haley is not the one we've been waiting for. Plus, with House Republicans signaling they may pull the plug on Ukraine aid, the war there is escalating. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for a new year of Charlie and Will Monday.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Bullwork Podcast,

0:10.0

Actually, welcome to 2024.

0:12.8

So, Will, are you ready for 2024?

0:16.4

Because I'm not sure anybody is.

0:17.9

Well, you know, we got to New Year's Eve,

0:19.9

and what I realized was,

0:21.0

I didn't really give a damn about 2023.

0:22.8

I didn't have no strong feelings for it.

0:24.3

And 2024 is going to be at least exciting, maybe scary.

0:27.4

You know, somebody asked me to write a piece about, you know,

0:29.7

predicting some Black Swan events for 2024, and know there are the obvious ones you know

0:35.5

assassinations heart attacks strokes things like that but the fact is that the whole

0:40.9

of 2024 is a Black Swan event, right? If you have a former

0:44.0

president of the United States who might be elected as a convicted felon. I mean,

0:48.3

so what's your definition of Black Swan other than what we're about to see. Trials, the summer, the conventions, the election.

0:56.0

Who knows what's going to happen to Ukraine?

0:58.0

Who knows what's going to happen in Taiwan? Who knows what's going to happen?

1:01.0

I mean, just, you keep running it through. The game I like to

1:04.2

play sometimes is to imagine that you were making predictions on January 1st of some

1:09.9

other consequential year like 1968. Did anybody see 1968 coming?

1:14.3

Really? 2016, I guarantee you, nobody saw what was going to happen in 2016.

1:19.2

2020, on January 1st we couldn't have predicted this global pandemic, which would change absolutely everything.

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