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The Dividend Cafe

Will People Ever Care about Value Again?

The Dividend Cafe

The Dividend Cafe - The Bahnsen Group

Estate Planning, Investing, Retirement Planning, Wealth Management, Business, Macro Economics, Dividend Growth Investing, Monetary Policy

4.9572 Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/4n1XYOG

Understanding Value vs. Growth Investing: Insights from Dividend Cafe

In this week's Dividend Cafe, the focus is on value investing, contrasted against growth investing. David delves into current investor mentalities, reinforcing time-tested investing principles with a historical context to understand risk and reward. Citing a verse from Proverbs, the discussion highlights the importance of valuation and the common missteps in modern investing. The talk explores various outcomes based on initial valuations, using examples like Apple, Google, and Peloton. The emphasis is on the need to avoid overpaying for 'hot' stocks and the pitfalls of following the crowd. The episode concludes by advocating for a balanced approach that integrates both value and growth strategies, stressing that valuation is a critical factor in investment success.

00:00 Introduction to Value Investing

01:10 Biblical Insights on Investing

02:02 The Psychology of Buying Investments

03:42 The Risks of Overpriced Investments

06:07 Historical Examples and Lessons

10:51 Valuation and Operating Performance

13:22 The Essence of Economic Thinking

15:05 Supply, Demand, and FOMO

16:50 Value vs. Growth Investing

23:21 Potential Catalysts and Risks

26:13 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dividing Cafe weekly market commentary focused on dividends in your portfolio and dividends in your understanding of economic life.

0:10.0

Hello and welcome to this week's Dividend Cafe recording here from the Newport Beach Studio, where I am excited to talk to you today about value investing and in a way talk about value

0:24.8

investing by talking about growth investing and unpack some of the things that are happening

0:30.5

right now that I believe reflect some real concerns in many investors mentality.

0:41.2

The goal out of today's talk will be to reinforce very time-tested principles and do so with a little bit of a more recent history overview that I think

0:48.8

will be useful in us understanding risk and reward in the context of these terms of value and growth. I don't believe

0:59.0

the investors have fully walked away from caring about value, putting it a little differently,

1:04.5

caring about valuation, but I do believe that they're caring about it right now in a, shall we

1:10.2

say, flawed way.

1:12.2

So let me unpack it a little.

1:14.4

I don't do this a lot in the Dividon Cafe, but I'm going to do it today and not worry at all about anyone who might be bothered by it.

1:22.0

Many of people know the listening to Dividend Cafe.

1:24.2

I happen to be a man of faith and a professing Christian, but I don't quote a lot of Bible verses in Dividing Cafe. I happen to be a man of faith and a professing Christian,

1:33.1

but I don't quote a lot of Bible verses in Dividing Cafe, although maybe I should do it more.

1:40.5

This verse I quote today, though, as real application to the topic at hand. I remember my late father preaching about this because it's a funny verse. But in Proverbs chapter 20, verse 14, it says, it's no good, it's no good, says the buyer,

1:51.0

and then the buyer goes off and boast about the purchase.

1:55.0

And there's this kind of comedic reflection of someone saying, oh boy, this is a pretty bad deal. I guess I'll do it.

2:01.7

And then they turn around and be like, yeah, there's a great deal. And I think it reflects that even,

2:07.5

you know, many thousands of years ago, there's always been an embedded understanding that a transaction

2:15.6

often has to be good at the time of purchase.

2:21.0

You know, I'm not sure I fully agree with the cliche that money is always made at the buy,

2:26.2

but I certainly believe that buying something cheaper indicates a better opportunity

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