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The Dividend Cafe

Thursday - June 12, 2025

The Dividend Cafe

The Dividend Cafe - The Bahnsen Group

Dividend Growth Investing, Investing, Estate Planning, Monetary Policy, Wealth Management, Business, Retirement Planning, Macro Economics

4.9572 Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

Positive Market Performance and Key Economic Indicators - June 12th Edition

In this edition of Dividend Cafe, Brian Szytel discusses the positive performance across major indices with the Dow up 101 points, the S&P rising 0.38%, and the Nasdaq up a quarter percent. Treasury yields showed weakness, and a lower-than-expected PPI number contributed to falling interest rates and a slightly weaker dollar. Initial jobless claims showed a slight increase for the fourth consecutive week, signaling a softening labor market, similar to levels seen in the summer of 2023. Brian also touches on the US-China trade talks, the significance of rare earth minerals and technology exports, and the current state of private real estate investment trusts, like Starwood and Blackstone. He concludes by urging viewers to send in questions and announces upcoming content for the week.

00:00 Introduction and Market Overview

00:22 Treasury Yields and Dollar Movement

00:34 Producer Price Index and Inflation

01:14 Jobless Claims and Labor Market Insights

01:56 US-China Trade Talks

03:22 Real Estate Market Analysis

04:28 Conclusion and Upcoming Updates

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dividend Cafe weekly market commentary focused on dividends in your portfolio and dividends in your understanding of economic life.

0:11.6

Welcome back to Dividend Cafe this Thursday, June the 12th. Brian Saitel with you here on yet another positive day here in markets.

0:20.1

We had the Dow up 101 points, which

0:22.8

is a quarter of a percent. The S&P was up.38 percent and NASDAQ was up a quarter of a percent.

0:28.9

So broadly speaking, a pretty good trading day. We closed near the highs for the session. We

0:34.1

had some weakness in treasury yields, meaning bond prices rose and yields fell. Ten year was down five bases, points closed at 436. The dollar was also slightly weaker today, and there's a reason for both of those things, since they tend to go hand in hand. Lower interest rates tends to lead to weaker currencies. But today we had a producer price index number, PPI, that was

0:56.7

weaker than expected, both on headline and core. It was up just one-tenth of a percent for the

1:02.1

month of May. As you remember from yesterday, the CPI number was the same. And so it's a repeat

1:08.0

on the wholesale input side here on producer prices. And that's a good thing for inflation. That is why interest rates came down a little bit. It gives the Fed a little bit more breathing room if they need to lower interest rates, which I suspect they will a few times before the end of the year. Call it 50 basis points is what's been priced in. But that was the larger piece of news. The other thing was initial jobless

1:29.0

claims today. We've been watching this now. This is the fourth week in a row where they've just

1:33.9

started to creep a little higher. It's not above a level where I think is a cost for a big concern,

1:38.9

but I know the Fed pays attention into this stuff. But we got a 248 print on the day, which was

1:43.6

slightly higher than expected.

1:45.2

And that puts the four-week moving average, which is a long enough period of time to start

1:49.5

drawing some conclusions of a slightly weakening labor market. Back to about where we saw in the

1:54.1

summer of 2023. If you remember in 22, interest rates went up from zero to five percent. And the

2:00.2

talk then was, of course, going to cause a recession that never happened. But you did see a little bit of weakness and jobless claims back then. And we're back to about those levels. So it's just worth paying attention to. And then what David had in there today was more about the U.S. China trade talks and what we're really talking about. A lot of this is just optics.

2:18.3

And as I've said on the media hit a couple of times yesterday, the fact that we're making

2:22.7

progress and that there's open dialogue and the fact that things have de-escalated and one way

2:27.7

the other, they'll be given, they'll be take. But we'll settle on something is why markets are

2:31.9

behaving better. This isn't just about China giving

2:35.7

some rare earth minerals for more ability for Chinese students to attend U.S. universities. It definitely

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