Will Penny Mordaunt be the next Tory leader?
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🗓️ 14 July 2022
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Nadhim Zahawi, Jeremy Hunt and Suella Braverman have been eliminated from the Conservative leadership election, with Penny Mordaunt climbing to second place behind Rishi Sunak.
Anoosh Chakelian, Freddie Hayward and Harry Lambert discuss the remaining candidates in this unpredictable race, the latest polling on front-runners Penny Mordaunt and Rishi Sunak, and whether being a “fresh face” will ultimately decide the contest.
Then in You Ask Us, NS Environment Correspondent India Bourke joins the podcast to answer a listener's question on which of the Conservative candidates would be best and worst for the environment and why.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Enouche. I'm India. I'm a Harry and I'm Freddie. |
| 0:06.8 | And on today's episode of the New Statesman podcast, we discuss the state of the Tory leadership |
| 0:11.2 | race so far and how Penny Morden has pulled ahead, and you ask us, which candidate would |
| 0:16.5 | be the best and worst for the environment? |
| 0:23.0 | So we're recording just before MPs vote in the second round of the Tory leadership contest. |
| 0:28.3 | We lost Nadim Sahawi and Jeremy Hunt yesterday, so we're down to six remaining candidates. |
| 0:33.9 | Freddie, could you run us through who's remaining and who seems to be coming out on top? |
| 0:39.9 | Yes, so we've got, Rishi Seen, I've got 88 Penny Morden, very close to final 67. |
| 0:46.2 | And then we've got Liz Truss, she'll be disappointed with her 50, Kimmy Bader not got 40, Tom |
| 0:51.9 | 2, I got 37, Swela Bravenman got 32, so you've got to remember that they needed 30 MPs |
| 0:58.8 | to support them to get through. And then Sahawi and Hunt, they're out. |
| 1:03.3 | Okay, so presumably if they don't have to get that 30 MP threshold and it's just the lowest |
| 1:08.2 | who gets out next time, are we expecting that to be? I mean, obviously a lot of our listeners |
| 1:12.7 | will be listening to this off to that result, so we won't dwell on it too much. |
| 1:16.1 | Swela's already lost, guys. Ah, I mean, I was just telling the listeners of the future |
| 1:20.7 | that she's already lost. Okay, all right. I was like, on the 30 rule, I've spoken to, |
| 1:27.4 | well, I'm how you might know more than me, I've spoken to three people now in the order to agree |
| 1:30.4 | on what actually the rule is, whether the 30 rule is staying for each of the rounds |
| 1:36.1 | or whether it's gone, whether it's just... That's a good question I was wondering as well. |
| 1:39.7 | So I've asked three people who said they've all seen the rules and they've not given me a consistent answer, |
| 1:44.3 | so I don't think we know that. Okay, we don't know that for sure. No. |
| 1:47.6 | But I think either way, the person with the least votes is going to get removed. Sure, |
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