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Coffee House Shots

Will MPs save Owen Paterson?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Politics, Government, Daily News

4.42.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2021

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

With the fishing war between the UK and France not necessarily over but at least at a ceasefire, today's Shots focuses on the Commons. Conservative MP Owen Paterson was found to have committed an 'egregious' breach of lobbying rules, but some in his party, including Jacob Rees-Mogg, have raised concerns about the investigation. 

On the podcast, Isabel Hardman says: 'I think a lot of MPs on both sides of this, regardless of their views of Owen Paterson's activities, allegedly on behalf of these companies, feel very uncomfortable about the whole thing.'

Also, Rob Roberts, who was suspended for repeated and unwanted sexual advances against a member of staff, is back in the Commons. But how is his return being taken by the Tory MPs he still shares the benches with?

Katy Balls is joined by James Forsyth and Isabel Hardman to discuss. 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:25.3

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, Expectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

0:28.7

I'm Katie Balls and I'm joined by Isabel Hardman and James Forsyfe.

0:34.3

So James, the week began with warnings of an imminent fishing war between the UK and France, but those threats now appear to have retreated somewhat. Yes, so this weekend,

0:40.3

David Frost and Clement Bone were indulging the rather undiplomatic Twitter spat with David

0:45.4

Frost having a long Twitter thread about his point of view and the UK point of view on the fishing

0:49.3

crisis, then Clement Bone writing a kind of point by point refutation of it and things that are all part of the bad, the kind of diplomatic ill will between the UK and France.

1:00.0

But there is now some progress, which is that David Frost is going to Paris on Thursday to see Clement Bone, who is Macron's Europe minister, and is very politically close to Macron in the way that Frost is politically close to Johnson.

1:11.9

The talks, not just on the fishing issue, but also on the Northern Ireland Protocol, France is one of the most hardline states on this question.

1:19.4

And I think the question then becomes, does France take any of the steps that it was threatening in terms of extra checks on lorries or not?

1:25.5

It's not doing that at the moment.

1:27.5

And has France decided to kind of de-escalate,

1:31.1

realizing that it had maybe got a little bit far ahead on its skis,

1:35.1

and also that there might be other ways to get some of this information.

1:38.7

I mean, there's also a tension, which is that one of the problems, I think, is the UK side

1:43.8

is saying, look, some of these French boats that claim they were fishing in these waters on this time, commercially available data, suggests that their description of where they were on those dates is not entirely accurate.

1:55.8

So, but I think the bigger question is, does this meeting between Frost and Commonwealth Bone

2:01.7

kind of actually improve things on a fishing front, but also create a slightly more

2:07.7

constructive attitude around the Northern Ireland approach score? At the moment, the UK and

2:12.8

EU positions seem quite entrenched and an agreement seems quite far away on Monday morning we had

2:18.5

Zafcovic the vice president, commission vice president dealing with this issue writing the telegraph

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