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Coffee House Shots

How can we define COP26 success?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Politics, Government, Daily News

4.42.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2021

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

COP26 is officially underway with world leaders meeting this morning. But what can these presidents and prime ministers promise given their domestic political challenges and the seeming disinterest of other nations like China? Katy Balls is joined by Fraser Nelson and James Forsyth to discuss the opening of COP26 and the continuing rise in Anglo-French tensions. 

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0:00.0

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0:25.1

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots and Spectators' Daily Politics Podcast.

0:28.5

I'm Katie Bors and I'm joined by Fraser Nelson and James Bucife.

0:35.6

COP 26 is underway in Glasgow and already Fraser, people are talking about how it could be a flop. We've had the Prime Minister ultimately saying that climate is

0:39.1

at one minute to midnight expressing dissatisfaction so far in terms of what has been announced

0:44.9

over the weekend. Is this an attempt to lower expectations or is Boris Johnson really trying

0:51.5

to pressure those into moving? Well, we're hearing the traditional language over a cop summit.

0:57.4

I remember Downing Street saying it was four minutes to midnight during the Copenhagen summit.

1:02.3

So it seems that three minutes is a long time when it comes to these kind of things.

1:07.9

And also, we're stuck into this rather sort of fake journalistic narrative

1:11.6

here, the idea that you're going to bang heads together, they're going to agree. As I wrote

1:15.9

in my Spectator article last week, the leaders around that table, it's not up to them to agree

1:22.3

to sign this or sign that. They've got parliaments who will tell them what they will do. Joe Biden

1:26.4

can't even get his plan passed to Congress right now. Then there's the issue of democratic consent. And then if you're going to

1:32.7

make any meaningful change on carbon emissions, you need the consent of China. And Xi Jinping isn't

1:38.1

even turning up. He's not giving a video speech. He's just sending a written statement because he's got his timetable and

1:45.6

it's not the same as Boris Johnson's. So what we're seeing is an act of theatre and because it's

1:50.5

just such a huge act of theatre, even journalists get sucked in and having to go along with it,

1:55.8

making out as if there's going to be some great moment of drama that there's real intensive

1:59.9

discussions we have inside. They will be discussing things. There will, as Robert Peston writes on the

2:05.4

spectator blog, there might be agreeing something about phasing out cold by 2040, some

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