Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American politics

and now the Joe Biden presidency. We will be looking at how a 78-year-old president

will change America and we'll be asking if normalcy, which is what

he promised to bring, has returned to American politics. The answer, of course, is no.

I'm joined today by Amber Athe, who is Washington editor of the spectator, and we're going to be talking about the crunch runoff

races in Georgia today. So Amber, tonight, if the things go smoothly, late tonight, probably,

perhaps tomorrow or perhaps even later, we will know the result of these two

Senate runoff races in Georgia. And it's fair to say they are fairly crucial because if the

Democrats managed to win both, they will have, assuming that the presidency goes to Biden as

seems to be inevitable now on tomorrow,

and then he's inaugurated on January the 20th, the Democrats will have the presidency, the House, and the Senate.

So it's big stakes.

How likely do you think it is that the Democrats will win both seats?

It's going to be so close. And, you know,

I think they have probably a better chance in the Loughler race, if only because Ralph Warnock appears to be a stronger candidate. He actually has ties to Georgia. John Ossif is sort of this

elitist Georgetown grad. At least that's the

perception of him on the campaign trail. But I will note, if you look at the way the votes

shook out during the initial election before the runoff, Kelly Leffler only got 1.3 million votes

to Warnock's 1.6 million votes. But there were also a million

votes that went to Doug Collins, who was trying to knock out Leffler. He was a former congressman

running for Senate. So if all of those individuals do come out to vote and they are, died in the

wool Republicans who are willing to vote for Leffler,

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