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Coffee House Shots

Will Boris Johnson face more southern rebels?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

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4.42.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2021

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

The surprise result of Friday's Chesham and Amersham by-election has led to questions over why the Conservative lost just so badly - and why no one saw it coming. On today's Coffee House Shots, Conservative Home's Paul Goodman warns against over-reading the situation:

'When it comes to by-elections, the golden rule should be, why not presume that voters will kick the establishment? ...  I really think, as I'm looking around at these Remainers coming out of their various holes and lairs, indulging these pathetic fantasies, that they have this out of proportion'

James Forsyth adds that the result isn't so much a problem for the Conservative party, as it is symptomatic of the future problems in party management.  Tory MPs of various stripes have analysed the results through the lens of their personal cause, and for southern MPs, the issue stems from a tilt away from the traditional Tory base to appease the new Red Wall seats:

'Every rebel with a cause is going to say that that cause has been demonstrated by this result, and all of it will just make party management more complex.'

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Hello and welcome to special Saturday edition of Coffee House Shots. Is the Blue Wall under threat?

0:32.2

We hear a lot these days about the Red Wall. Boris Johnson is keen to remind anyone who'll listen

0:36.5

about all the gains the

0:37.7

Tory party made in the 2019 general election. But what about those seats in the South that the

0:43.5

Tories have relied on for so long? The Chesson and Amish in by-election saw the Lib Dems take the

0:48.9

seat from the Tories in a surprise win. I'm now joined by James Forsythe and Paul Goodman, the editor of Conservative

0:56.0

Home. James, can you talk us through that result? There were some nerves ahead of the vote,

1:00.2

but ultimately, I didn't get the sense that the Tory party vote that would a lose it and two lose

1:05.4

it by that margin. So I think at the beginning of the campaign, the Tory view was it's a by-election.

1:11.8

The majority will get cut down a bit, particularly because HS2 means that there's not a huge amount of goodwill towards the party in the seat, despite it having historically been a safe Tory seat.

1:23.3

But it would all be all right.

1:25.7

Then as the campaign went on, I think people sensed it was getting closer.

1:29.4

I think at a week ago, people were talking about, you know, 1,500,000 majority.

1:34.3

As this week went on, people were like, oh, maybe it'll be three figures, not four.

1:38.4

But I think people thought it was going to be close, but they weren't going to lose.

1:41.5

They certainly weren't expecting to lose.

1:42.8

0.8,000 votes. The Lib Dem majority is bigger than the entire Lib Dem vote in the seat in the

1:49.4

2017 general election. It is a quite remarkable result. What has driven this result, I think

1:55.8

that there is a mixture of planning an HS2 came together in a sense of building concrete being imposed against

2:05.5

the wishes of local people. I think that there is now a problem with the phrase leveling up.

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