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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Cindy Yu and I'm joined by Katie Bors and James

Ossithe. So this morning in an upset for the Conservative Party, the Liberal Democrats took

Cheshem and Amisham in a by-election victory. Katie, can you talk us through what's happened?

So I think you've got what I think can be reasonably called a stunning victory for the Liberal

Democrats because what

they've done is they've overturned a majority of 16,000 and then they've had quite a few votes

to boot. So they lived in a candidate won a majority of 8,000, just over 8,000 and obviously

came, if you look at the previous one, had to overturn 16,000 votes to even win it.

So it was a fairly comfortable majority, if you think about that scenario and a huge swing.

I think that in advance, I think that when it comes to these by-election seats, there can be a reputation.

I think Lib Dems have a little bit of kind of pushing up expectations.

You often hear the party that's a bit

behind but wants people to think it's much closer saying, you know, it's a very close race. So I think

when the Lib Dems were kind of suggesting that they were very close, lots of figures took it with

pinch of salt. And when also you spoke to Tories on the ground, I did not get the impression they thought it was that neck and neck.

So one of the examples you kept hearing was it's like the Whitney by-election.

And that's a by-election after David Cameron quit the Commons in his seat.

And you saw a rise in support for the Lib Dems, but the Tory candidate still had a majority of just over 5,000.

So your majority is reduced,

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