Welcome to the Global Phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman. What's up, STDS Nation, and welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor.

They just keep on coming.

It is the podcast that brings you the very best guests in all of true crime.

You guys remember a guy named Ellic Murdoch?

Yeah, he is back in the news yet again, the man who just won't go away.

Now it turns out that the Supreme Court of South Carolina is going to hear his appeal for a possible new murder trial.

Oove, as they say in South Carolina, can we all handle this? I don't know, but we're about to find out. And the only

silver lining here is I am reunited with three of my favorite best guests who always bring the energy the charm and

Amy Lawrence lovely the F-Bombs to the podcast so without further ado

starting bottom right corner with the cool new glasses, Sarah Ford,

she has served as a legal director at the South Carolina Victim Assistance Network since 2017. She leaves a team of attorneys and advocates to provide direct

legal services to South Carolina crime victims. She is a former South Carolina

prosecutor and has hosted a bunch of

different podcasts that I can't keep up with.

Are you on a pod, are you doing a podcast these days, Sarah?

I'm on a hiatus, can I say that?

I'm on hiatus from stepping toward justice.

Life gets so busy, but like, you know,

I've got all your podcast is made.

I have so many shows that I keep up with,

so I'm on a hiatus right now but thanks for the plug. Yeah well you have a quote

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