Ammodei, Altman, all of the AI CEOs, they do want to create the impression that like a great disruption is coming.

That makes it easier for them to sell more automation software, right?

Like that's it's a product in the array of products that they're selling is Enterprise AI Automation.

Yeah. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us, made in partnership with The Nation magazine.

I'm your host, Paris Marks, and this week my guest is Brian Merchant.

Brian is the author of Blood in the Machine and also writes a newsletter under the same name where he's recently been publishing a series of essays, articles, under the name AI killed my job.

Now, you might also remember Brian from a podcast we were doing together earlier this year called System Crash,

or just from hearing him on the show before we were actually doing that show in the past number of years.

But since Brian has been talking to so many workers about the impacts that generative AI and the rollout of those tools in various companies in many different sectors are having

on their professions, on their work, on basically the sectors that they work in.

I figured it was a good moment to have him back on the show so we can discuss, you know,

not just the effects that generative AI is having on work, but also this broader narrative

of AI that we've been

seeing over the past number of years, these questions that many people are posing now about

the state of the AI bubble and the AI hype that we have been experiencing and whether

we're finally starting to see it deflate. You know, I think it's still very much an open question

and we'll have to see where that goes, but also to try to understand, you know, I think it's still very much an open question and we'll have to see where that goes,

but also to try to understand, you know, what the longer term consequences of generative AI might be,

even if this bubble does eventually burst, that doesn't mean the technology is going to disappear.

There's still kind of remnants of the metaverse out there.

Of course, cryptocurrency has turned

into a political force. So what might happen with generative AI in the future? So I think there

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