Theo Epstein on the balance between analytics and the human element. And thank God, somebody has

finally said it. Someone of note has finally said it. He almost said investing there, Curtis,

and then he stopped himself when it comes to the Red Sox. Well, he knows his boss.

But it is. Isn't it?

Haven't you been underwhelmed?

When we were at the snow show at Loon when it was announced a couple years ago that he was joining the Fenway Sports Group.

Yeah.

And he has basically been invisible.

Publicly, I mean, you know, when you read the Globe piece or others, I mean, it does appear that he's in all these meetings and he's weighing in on things.

But you're right.

He's reluctant to be.

I think probably because, as you said earlier, he's waiting to be the commissioner of baseball whenever Rob Manfred retires.

But I...

He'll be part of the cleanup crew after the lockout.

And I said to Sam Kennedy when Ken and I were at the Fenway Winter Weekend, I said to him about Theo being the commissioner and he was giddy.

He's like, keep saying that, keep saying that.

That would be a great, great role for him because I presume this group has a very good relationship with them and it'd be good if he was the commissioner.

You are still on lockout being a full-blown reality, correct?

Oh, totally.

Okay.

I mean, I, Bryce Harper spoke the other day and he said that we have momentum on all this,

but I mean, there's no way that the players, as far as I can tell,

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