Will A.I. Slop Replace the Internet? with Jason Koebler

Factually! with Adam Conover

Headgum

Comedy

4.4 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

A.I. slop is competing for space all across the web, and it’s starting to edge out actual human creators. The internet, once rife with possibility, is rapidly turning into a depressing wasteland of mind numbing garbage. Despite the massive volume of brain-waste being sludged out every day, there are still some brilliant human minds trying to turn the tides of the battle. 404media is a worker-owned tech journalism outlet, and they use their real human minds to investigate and report on stories—everything from surveillance, to AI, to cyber security, to hacking, to sex. Joining Adam today is Jason Koebler, one of 404’s reporters and founders, to talk about the bizarre details of the A.I. slop economy and what we can do to fight back.

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0:00.0	This is a Headgum podcast.
0:05.6	A lot of short daily news podcasts focus on just one story.
0:10.0	But right now, you probably need more.
0:12.8	On Up First from NPR, we bring you three of the world's top headlines every day in under 15 minutes.
0:19.6	Because no one's story can capture all that's happening in this big,
0:24.1	crazy world of ours on any given morning. Listen now to the Up First podcast from NPR.
0:30.3	Your first great love story is free when you sign up for a free 30-day trial at audible.co.
0:35.2	That's audible.co.com. U.K. slash Wondery. That's audible.com.
0:38.6	U.K. slash Wondery.
0:41.1	I don't know the truth.
0:43.9	I don't know the way.
0:46.5	I don't know what to think.
0:48.9	I don't know what to say.
0:52.1	Yeah, but that's all right.
0:55.0	That's okay.
0:57.6	I don't know anything.
1:01.8	Hey there, welcome to Factually.
1:03.3	I'm Adam Conover.
1:04.2	Thank you so much for joining me on the show again.
1:06.4	You know, I've been making comedy here on the internet for a couple decades now.
1:10.5	I come up with an idea with my human brain. I write it down. I got some other nice folks who helped me out doing that. We produce it. We edit it. We put it up on the internet for you to watch. And if you like it, well, you give us a little bit of money or we read a couple ads. Somehow we make enough money to do it again. The next week, I really enjoy doing it,
1:28.7	and I thank you for all of your support.
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