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🗓️ 28 April 2021
⏱️ 33 minutes
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“We would also be very conscious of preaching anti-communism because people were saying that the African National Congress, you know, former President Mandela's political party, they were really not liberation fighters, they were terrorists.”
Wilhelm is a facilitator and researcher based at Stellenbosch University in South Africa. A dedicated peace activist, he is also the author of several books, including most recently Verwoerd: My Journey Through Family Betrayals.
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0:00.0 | Hey, confessional listeners, given everything happening in our country right now around |
0:05.7 | issues of race and policing, I wanted to bring back an episode from last year. |
0:12.3 | It's a conversation I had with Wilhelm Vervout, and it's about his own culpability in |
0:18.1 | apartheid South Africa. |
0:20.4 | But it's also about his lifelong commitment to helping dismantle something his very own |
0:25.6 | family helped to build. |
0:28.0 | I found it really helpful, and I hope you do too. |
0:32.0 | I'll be back with a brand new episode for you next week. |
0:36.2 | See you then. |
0:39.3 | In the spring of 2014, I found a small dog wandering in front of my house. |
0:54.3 | The streets of our neighborhood in North Denver were dotted with small brick houses, and |
0:59.3 | the nights were often punctuated with gunfire and drunken shouting. |
1:04.6 | I coaxed the friendly Chihuahua into my arms and found that he was tagged with an address |
1:09.6 | just two blocks away, so I decided to return the cute little thing to his owner. |
1:15.2 | But I was alone and didn't know what kind of situation I'd find when I knocked on |
1:20.5 | the door. |
1:22.6 | So when I saw a police cruiser parked on the street, I thought I'll just ask the officer |
1:29.2 | to keep an eye on me as I return the dog, you know, make sure I was safe. |
1:34.5 | When a young black woman answered the door, she did not seem to be relieved or grateful |
1:39.8 | that a white lady was returning her lost dog as I had expected, but instead had a look |
1:46.3 | of terror on her face when she saw a cop parked in front of her house. |
1:52.4 | She just said, okay, as I handed her the dog, but she never took her eyes off the cop. |
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