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🗓️ 5 May 2021
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“I was dressed up looking the part, but deep inside, I was just vacant. I just was not someone I was proud of anymore.”
Jeff Grant, J.D., M.Div. is Co-Founder of Progressive Prison Ministries, Inc., the one of the world’s first ministries serving the white collar justice community. Jeff co-hosts with Babz Rawls Ivy the Criminal Justice Insider podcast and hosts the White Collar Week podcast. He also leads a weekly online confidential White Collar Support Group.
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0:00.0 | When I was in seminary, an older pastor said to me, |
0:14.0 | Nadia, I've seen you around for years now, and you give off a lot of strength. |
0:21.0 | I think that's what people see when they look at you, which is great, but what is it we don't see? |
0:29.0 | That was about the rudest question I've ever been asked. |
0:34.0 | But I answered as honestly as I could at the time. |
0:39.0 | I get my feelings hurt more than anyone would suspect, I said, which is true, but only a partial truth. |
0:48.0 | I found myself asking a form of that rude question a lot. |
0:54.0 | What's the thing under the thing? |
0:57.0 | A question which has led me to understand even if just a little bit, how shame really operates in our lives. |
1:07.0 | Because it can feel as though shame can be like a quill that writes its own story inside of our bodies, |
1:16.0 | a story that tries to tell us who we are and what we're worth. |
1:22.0 | A story that keeps us moving in the same unhelpful direction just because it's familiar and just because we're scared. |
1:32.0 | And I used to think that the people who struggled with shame were the ones who wear that story like a name tag, |
1:41.0 | letting the world know that they are who their shame says they are, the ones slouched over with trauma and wounds and a diminished self. |
1:54.0 | But I've started to see that others of us are equally defined by shame. |
2:00.0 | We just carry it in opposite ways. |
2:03.0 | We spool all our energy into trying to prove our internal story wrong. We cover the truth of what we don't want to admit to with bravado and confidence and grandiosity. |
2:18.0 | And we hope no one notices. |
2:21.0 | Because the deeper truth to the question that pastor asked me is that my youthful swagger was protective. It was brilliantly strategic. |
2:34.0 | My confident posture hides the fact that despite how my life looks on the outside, |
2:42.0 | I still can feel like that skinny, bug-eyed kid who was chronically sick and who spent years sitting by herself at middle school lunch tables. |
2:54.0 | Shame is such a powerful driving force that if harnessed, I'm pretty sure it could replace fossil fuels. |
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