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From KQED.

From KQED.

From KQED Public Radio in San Francisco, I'm Nina Kim.

Coming up on forum, we'll get an update on the wildfires ravaging the state's landscape.

Then Claudia Rankin joins us.

The poet, playwright, MacArthur Fellow, and best-selling author, has a new book titled Just Us,

where she engages in conversation with her white friends, spouse, and even strangers who are white, about whiteness and privilege. To learn, among other things, what's possible in the

intimacy of conversation and to learn more about herself. We'll talk with Rankin about the

power and limits of conversation

as a means for interracial understanding.

That's all next on Forum.

Join us.

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