The campfire alone now claiming the lives of 42 people, making it the deadliest fire in state history.

The best scientists in the world are all telling us that our activities are changing the climate.

I don't think it's a hoax. I think there's probably a difference, but I don't know that it's man-made.

Experts say that we have until 2030 to avoid catastrophe.

Climate change may be twice as bad for the United States as the Great Depression.

That's according to David Wallace Wells in his recent book, The Uninhabitable Earth.

That may be speculation.

But there's nothing speculative about the increasing danger of wildfire as a result of climate change.

Consider California, where wildlife is a major part of the history, the culture, even the mythology.

Recently, in New York Magazine, David wrote under the headline, Los Angeles, fire season is beginning again, and it will never end.

David Wallace Wells, good to have you.

Thanks for having me.

Great to talk to you.

The one phrase that's not in that title is beginning again, worse than ever.

Talk about that.

Yeah, well, last year was the worst year in the state's entire fire history.

The Wolsey fire was not just the worst fire in Los Angeles history.

It was twice as big as any fire that had ever burned in the county before.

It came just a few months after the Mendocino Complex, which was not in Los Angeles County technically, but not too far.

And that was the biggest wildfire in California history. So, you know, not in Los Angeles County technically, but not too far. And that was the biggest wildfire in California history.

So, you know, we're dealing with a fire season that is producing many more catastrophic fires than ever before.

And while it's the case, understandably, that many Los Angeles and many Californians look at these fires and think,

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