I challenge you on one of the statements that you made in the tail end of the campaign. Here we go. Your question is a very political question because you have an agenda, your CNN, your fake news. Are you concerned that you may have indictments? I'm not concerned about anything with the Russian investigation because it's a hoax. Are you, that's enough. Put down the mic. Quiet, quiet. I'm not going to give you a question. Can you stay categorical? Fake news.

Fake news. I don't take questions from CNN. John Roberts of Fox. Let's go to a real network. That's Jim Acosta. He's Chief White House correspondent for CNN in one of his many confrontations with Donald Trump. When the President of the United States has demonstrably

lied more than 10,000 times since he was elected, what's a reporter to do? Acosta's strategy

has made him central to Trump's diatribes against fake news. On this podcast, Acosta tells me

how he understands another phrase the president has used to describe the

news media as a whole. This expression, the enemy of the people, will help come to define this

era when one group of Americans was pitted against another in ways that I've never seen before in my

lifetime. Acosta has now seized on Trump's attack line,

the enemy of the people, as the title of a book,

subtitled, A Dangerous Time to Tell the Truth in America.

I asked him why he wrote it.

Well, you know, I wanted to write this book because I feel as though the public has a right to know

what we've been up against as reporters covering this

presidency, covering this administration. You know, a couple of things. One is, as the Washington Post

fact checker recently found, the president has uttered approximately 10,000 false or misleading statements

since the beginning of this administration.

That's made as fact checkers in real time. I think we've never been up against a challenge like

that in terms of setting the fact straight in terms of what comes from the President of the United

States. And so that's made for a very difficult and challenging environment. And then on top of that, I think the

president has gone after the press and ways that are not healthy for our democracy, referring to the

press as the enemy of the people and fake news and so on. I think it's really undermined the confidence

of the American people in the free press in this country. And that's why I wanted to

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